# Chat Rate Limit and Whispers

**URL:** <https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/chat-rate-limit-and-whispers/5941>\
**Category:** Chat and IRC\
**Created:** [April 29, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/chat-rate-limit-and-whispers/5941 "2016-04-29T12:55:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nat\_Karmios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/49beb7/32.png) [@Nat\_Karmios](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Nat_Karmios)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/chat-rate-limit-and-whispers/5941/1 "2016-04-29T12:55:58Z")

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Do sending whispers via IRC still contribute to the limit on chat messages?

i.e., if the limit is 20 messages in 30 seconds, for example, and I send 15 messages and 10 whispers, will that cause my account to get banned for spamming?

If not, is there a separate limit for whispers, and what is it?

Thanks for any help.

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**Author:** ![Nat\_Karmios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/49beb7/32.png) [@Nat\_Karmios](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Nat_Karmios)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/chat-rate-limit-and-whispers/5941/2 "2016-04-29T12:57:20Z")

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I found an answer here:

> [@Does the rate limit extend to whispers?](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/does-the-rate-limit-extend-to-whispers/2514):
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> If you send more than 20 commands or messages to the server within a 30 second period, you will get locked out for 8 hours automatically. These are not lifted so please be careful when working with IRC! With the introduction of whispering specific individuals. Do these whispers count toward the limit? If not, what is the limit for sending whispers to specific individuals and separate individuals?

Although now that whispers have been integrated into the main IRC server, is this still the same?

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**Author:** ![night](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/night/32/1613_2.png) [@night](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/night)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/chat-rate-limit-and-whispers/5941/3 "2016-04-30T22:22:31Z")

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Whispers do not adhere to the same rate limits, no. I believe you can send a whisper per a couple seconds, but the exact rate limit is not documented as far as I know. There are also other undocumented rate limits to deal with spammers. It is worth noting that Twitch will likely move whispers off IRC at some point in the near future given that their site no longer sends whispers to/from IRC.

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**Author:** ![system](https://d2opxh93rbxzdn.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/05909729875cce3b53e59d5561c4d23bb14948fc.png) [@system](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/chat-rate-limit-and-whispers/5941/4 "2016-05-30T22:22:40Z")

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Closed on May 30, 2016, 10:22pm UTC

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