# Do the HTML open graph images ("og:image") on VODs change over time?

**URL:** <https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902>\
**Category:** Help / Off-topic\
**Created:** [October 24, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902 "2016-10-24T05:49:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![corgrath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@corgrath](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/corgrath)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/1 "2016-10-24T05:49:07Z")

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Hey all.

I see that Twitch is using [the Open Graph protocol](http://ogp.me/) in order to show a thumbnail of a video on websites, such as Facebook and Twitch, etc.

However, I have noticed these URLs change over time.

For example, I am taking Lirik - a popular Twitch broadcaster - as an example now.

On recent videos, the `og:image` URL looks like:

`//static-cdn.jtvnw.net/v1/AUTH_system/vods_b0a9/lirik_23473896608_535789428/thumb/thumb0-480x320.jpg`

But it seems like over time they are changed to, something like:

`//static-cdn.jtvnw.net/s3_vods/cc99e84827_lirik_23393711584_530777864/thumb/thumb0-480x320.jpg`

We have noticed, since these images are being changed over time, the thumbnails obviously breaks if they are used on Facebook pages, tweets, on our own gallery sites, etc.

If you compare these URLs with YouTube they have a more straight forward solution:

`//i.ytimg.com/vi/[video-id]/default.jpg`

Does anyone have more information about this, and/or maybe there is a way to to get a “permalink” of these video thumbnails so that they don’t break over time?

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/2 "2016-10-24T17:01:21Z")

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I think what you are seeing is some older vods that used a previous system to get thumbs and are stored as such/not updated.

Is that correct?

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**Author:** ![corgrath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@corgrath](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/corgrath)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/3 "2016-10-24T17:15:02Z")

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I am not really in a position to distinguish what current and previous systems Twitch has =)

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/4 "2016-10-24T17:41:52Z")

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I mean is the vod you are looking at should the first URL an old vod and the second URL being from a newer vod?

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**Author:** ![corgrath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@corgrath](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/corgrath)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/5 "2016-10-24T17:53:43Z")

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Ah ok.

> I mean is the vod you are looking at should the first URL an old vod and the second URL being from a newer vod?

No, its the same VOD.

Here is is an example:

This URL was captured October 17:

`https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/v1/AUTH_system/vods_955f/lirik_23393711584_530777864/thumb/thumb0-480x320.jpg`

But it is currently broken.

When I find the original video:

`https://www.twitch.tv/lirik/v/94527276`

I see the `og:image` has been changed to:

`https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/s3_vods/cc99e84827_lirik_23393711584_530777864/thumb/thumb0-480x320.jpg`

As you can see its almost identical URLs, but `/static-cdn.jtvnw.net/v1/AUTH_system/` has been changed to `/s3_vods/`.

I don’t know why the original URL is now broken and if you look at the `og:image` now, its a different image.

So my question is. Does Twitch break these images over time, and replace them with new URLs?

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**Author:** ![corgrath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@corgrath](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/corgrath)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/6 "2016-10-24T17:57:00Z")

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Also if you just look at LIRIK’s video page, you can see that the different thumbnails have different systems.

`https://www.twitch.tv/lirik/videos/all`

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/7 "2016-10-24T18:18:08Z")

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Ah gotcha. sounds like a bug for @DallasNChains to poke upstairs

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**Author:** ![DallasNChains](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/dallasnchains/32/1608_2.png) [@DallasNChains](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/DallasNChains)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/8 "2016-10-26T00:06:18Z")

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Thanks for pinging me, @BarryCarlyon! I’ll check on this.

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**Author:** ![system](https://d2opxh93rbxzdn.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/05909729875cce3b53e59d5561c4d23bb14948fc.png) [@system](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/do-the-html-open-graph-images-og-image-on-vods-change-over-time/7902/9 "2016-11-05T00:06:28Z")

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