Important re-subscription change

Freddy · 2016-06-21T06:40:04.125Z

TWITCHCLIENT was removed a long time ago.
I’m not 100% sure because i always request those but i assume you have to request the commands and tags capability

CAP REQ :twitch.tv/tags Twitch

BarryCarlyon · 2016-06-21T09:52:02.184Z

If you are ONLY sending whispers to new subs there is nothing to do. Nothing has changed for new subs.

BarryCarlyon · 2016-06-21T09:52:51.852Z

To chip in, @Freddy is correct @Tyler_Durden you need the tags and commands cap.

(And the ability to change your IRC parser for USERNOTIFY messages)

tomh117 · 2016-06-21T09:55:26.803Z

Yeah I used to send something to certain resubs as well, though turned that off for now, gonna make sure the room-id and sys-msg works as expected first.

BarryCarlyon · 2016-06-21T10:20:56.841Z

Currently I have observed that on the event of a hosted resub. The channel doing the hosting gets no notification. It does for hosted channel new subs (as thats old system)

DallasNChains · 2016-06-21T13:23:52.345Z

@BarryCarlyon: That’s correct.

To provide some more context: Originally, we were sending a USERNOTICE to each hosting channel and the hosted channel. This was scenario 3 that we removed. The problem was that the room-id tag always matched the room receiving the USERNOTICE instead of the room where the resub originated. We thought that was kind of a weird behavior and decided to remove it.

The feedback here about a target-room-id tag helped drive that decision, too. Now, we only send a USERNOTICE to the room where the resubscription is taking place, which should mean no more parsing of system-msg to decide if you care about the message.

If it isn’t working out that way, please let me know.

MarcelG · 2016-06-21T18:01:35.151Z

I always seem to find out about these breaking changes too late. Is there a distribution list that we can join to get informed of these type of changes right away? My bot is for private use in a few channels, only doing maintenance work when necessary, and I don’t make a habit of reading these forums with regular cadence.

DallasNChains · 2016-06-21T18:09:23.858Z

We didn’t announce this via email at all. We reserve the email list for large changes (such as the Client-ID requirement). I can manually add you to that list as I’m working on getting a sign-up form on the dev.twitch.tv website. Just DM me your email address. The forums are going to be the primary place for communications with follow-on communication on Twitter.

3ventic · 2016-06-21T18:12:02.905Z

You can enable email notifications for new threads on these forums in your preferences, but it will result in quite a bit of noise if you’re only interested in the official announcements.

SharqSir · 2016-06-21T21:11:18.192Z

Previously I believe that if you were hosting a channel and the hostee received a subscriber/resub the hoster’s chat would recieve a sub/resub notification as well, does that still exist in its prior form or is there a new one?

DallasNChains · 2016-06-21T21:24:19.346Z

We only send a re-sub notification to the room of where the user is re-subscribing. See this post for a little more behind the reasoning.

14wojciechal · 2016-06-22T04:16:51.381Z

Are you guys worried people will use their resub message to have a chat bot post malicious links in chat? I was thinking it’d be safer to detect a link before having the bot say it in chat. Just something to think about before it potentially becomes a thing.

Freddy · 2016-06-22T04:26:49.543Z

the bot would have to sub for at least 2 months to do that which is possible but very unlikely.

14wojciechal · 2016-06-22T04:32:39.960Z

But you know how trolly some people get on Twitch. Even if it wasnt a virus type of malicious link it could be some porn or other things that are against the TOS. A moderated bot would be posting in chat.

Freddy · 2016-06-22T04:40:30.177Z

I agree to normal users being trolls and potentially use it in a way it’s not meant to be used. I was only referring to bots using it that way.

BarryCarlyon · 2016-06-22T13:04:26.870Z

Chat moderators (and bots) can moderate/timeout these messages in the exact same way as regular chat messages. So the point is moot really…

Edit: well the moderator buttons show up, I’ve not actually tried to moderate/timeout one yet

14wojciechal · 2016-06-22T17:12:20.525Z

I’m talking about bots like Nightbot or other moderator bots that welcome resubscriptions and now possibly say what the resub message is in chat. Although it seems like alot of bots are opting out of saying the resub messages and just sticking with the tradition “thanks for resubscribing”.

BarryCarlyon · 2016-06-22T20:14:40.724Z

There’s no reason for the channel bot to repeat a resub attached message. The resub attached message is sent in the clear as per which is a logged out chrome on my phone

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BarryCarlyon · 2016-06-22T20:15:49.664Z

Question @DallasNChains what happens if a subscribed that is banned in chat leaves a message with their resub? Logically the message would be dropped but the resub still fires?!

14wojciechal · 2016-06-22T20:20:19.913Z

Weird, does Twitch only show the message on mobile then?

Edit: I’m assuming this will updated soon.