# IRC number of chatters

**URL:** <https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475>\
**Category:** Chat and IRC\
**Created:** [May 25, 2017, 9:38am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475 "2017-05-25T09:38:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Xambey](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/xambey/32/2559_2.png) [@Xambey](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Xambey)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:38am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475/1 "2017-05-25T09:38:31Z")

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In the last 2 weeks, I began to observe the problem with the number of people in the chat. My bot very closely watches who enters and leaves the chat room and recently i began to observe that the number of outgoing people dropped sharply and it turns out that the number of active users is almost twice the actual number of users. I would like to know if this is the only thing that happens or decides this problem? The code didn’t change, before all worked correctly. Disassemble, please, thanks! P.S if you use the API then there’s a number of chatters corrected, sorry for my english

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475/2 "2017-05-25T10:58:00Z")

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How are you determining who joins and leaves chat?

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**Author:** ![Xambey](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/xambey/32/2559_2.png) [@Xambey](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/Xambey)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475/3 "2017-05-25T13:27:47Z")

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Through JOIN and PART, they notify when someone enters and leaves the room, before the server sent them correctly, now it’s some kind of garbage + If a user writes something to the chat, it also shows that he is active. For example, now on the channel [https://www.twitch.tv/blackufa\_twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/blackufa_twitch), it shows that there are 166 people in the room, when there is about 40 there. Previously everything was correct

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475/4 "2017-05-25T22:21:18Z")

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I don’t rely on join/parts as they don’t work at all in channels with 1k+ viewers.

So you would probably be better off not using join/parts and doing what other people do and pulling the unofficial chatters end point.

[https://tmi.twitch.tv/group/user/CHANNELNAME/chatters](https://tmi.twitch.tv/group/user/CHANNELNAME/chatters)

Be warned since it’s not supported, expect it to break/not work

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**Author:** ![system](https://d2opxh93rbxzdn.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/05909729875cce3b53e59d5561c4d23bb14948fc.png) [@system](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/irc-number-of-chatters/10475/5 "2017-06-24T22:31:36Z")

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Closed on June 24, 2017, 10:31pm UTC

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