Relative clip offset while stream is still running


I am fetching clip via v5 API (kraken), and if requested clip was created from stream which is still online - clip will have vod=null.

I need offset and duration to check for intersections between two clips. While duration is available even if stream is still online, offset - is not. Is there any way to get any relative offset for such clips?

I know that offset is not finalized while VOD will not be saved, but I really need to be able to compare clips timeline while stream is online. May be real world timestamp of clip start can be reached somehow?

May be there another way to achieve ability of checking clips timeline intersection?

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