# Single person starting hypetrains?

**URL:** <https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/single-person-starting-hypetrains/61763>\
**Category:** API\
**Created:** [November 19, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/single-person-starting-hypetrains/61763 "2024-11-19T13:52:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![mxpuffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@mxpuffin](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/mxpuffin)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/single-person-starting-hypetrains/61763/1 "2024-11-19T13:52:30Z")

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Dunno when it started but noticed in the last couple weeks that individual users have been able to kick off hypetrains by gifting 5 subs and no other events.

Here’s the hype train start data I was able to log out, but as you can see, the only ‘valid’ contribution wouldve been the 5 gift subs from 1 user and the hype train article specifically mentions that  
“One viewer cannot start a Hype Train alone. A Hype Train is kicked off by a spike in contributions in a channel coming from different viewers within a 5-minute period, called support events.”

```auto
{ "total_progress": 2540.0, "expires_at": "2024-11-18T10:27:14.819556365Z", "from_channel_id": 144528024.0, "event": "begin", "top_other_contribution": { }, "goal_progress": 940.0, "id": "052ac578-1057-46dd-8fee-52d2078cfba7", "current_goal": 1800.0, "last_contribution": { "user_name": "tinyxdreams", "user_id": "486068032", "total": 2500.0, "display_name": "TinyxDreams", "type": "subscription" }, "type": 1.0, "current_level": 2.0, "top_subscription_contribution": { "user_name": "tinyxdreams", "user_id": "486068032", "total": 2500.0, "display_name": "TinyxDreams" }, "top_bits_contribution": { "user_name": "reaperxde", "user_id": "72847428", "total": 40.0, "display_name": "reaperxde" }, "trigger_type": 17.0 }

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**Author:** ![BarryCarlyon](https://d3ovvz0v2ajtpu.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/discuss.dev.twitch.com/barrycarlyon/32/253_2.png) [@BarryCarlyon](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/BarryCarlyon)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/single-person-starting-hypetrains/61763/2 "2024-11-19T20:21:42Z")

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> [@mxpuffin](#):
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> Dunno when it started but noticed in the last couple weeks that individual users have been able to kick off hypetrains by gifting 5 subs and no other events.

Not sure how your question pertains to third party development on the relevant third party products?

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**Author:** ![mxpuffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@mxpuffin](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/mxpuffin)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/single-person-starting-hypetrains/61763/3 "2024-11-20T06:40:54Z")

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I had no idea where to post it, noticed the data that was pulled with a hype train start event only contained a single hype event

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**Author:** ![system](https://d2opxh93rbxzdn.cloudfront.net/original/2X/0/05909729875cce3b53e59d5561c4d23bb14948fc.png) [@system](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://discuss.dev.twitch.com/t/single-person-starting-hypetrains/61763/4 "2024-12-20T06:40:57Z")

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